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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The current situation is that if the city
does not choose to build the preferred solution they cannot get any money from
the highway department to build anything else. I cannot speak to the
possibility that a peer review would generate a new preferred solution or
otherwise allow the city to choose another solution. The no-build of course is
always available but very undesirable. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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missoulagov-bounces@cmslists.com [mailto:missoulagov-bounces@cmslists.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jed Taylor<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 29, 2009
1:43 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> missoulagov@cmslists.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [MissoulaGov]
committee update 1-28-09</span></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>A couple things for the list.</span></font><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I think the concept of using a
communications tool to better share ideas and activities can only be beneficial
to both the Council and the public. As you're probably aware, though,
there are better solutions than SharePoint, a typical M$ product that does
nothing well except provide a revenue stream for <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Redmond</st1:place></st1:City> from those who only consider M$
products. For instance, the City could offer a phpBB-based collection of
forums (see <a href="http://www.phpbb.com/">http://www.phpbb.com/</a>) where
some areas are view-only for the public and others are specifically designed
for public participation. Using such a solution would address any and all
concerns about 'sunshine', allow controlled participation where appropriate,
allow anyone to view discussions, provide an archive of discussions, and allow
for even greater public participation. Oh, and it's free, too. And
Open Source, so it's modifiable. As someone who participates in a variety
of phpBB-based forums, it's easy for me to imagine how beneficial such a system
would be to the City in terms of increasing openness, communication,
participation, and documentation. I would encourage the Council to look
into this, especially since someone's already investing time and money in
SharePoint.</span></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>And speaking of investing money....
The Council voted on Monday to spend $186k of the public's money on a peer
review of the Russell & 3rd EIS, right? So what, exactly, are the
citizens of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Missoula</st1:place></st1:City>
getting for this expense? We already know what transportation engineers
(people who love to build roads) favor, and we already know that there's
considerable public sentiment against so much asphalt as well as its effect on
the neighborhood south of 3rd street. And we already know that there's a
well-considered counter-proposal (the 3+ plan) available. Is this expense
simply a CYA project to protect the decision-makers from the public fallout
that's sure to result if the preferred solution in the EIS is
actually constructed? Is there a reasonable expectation that the peer
review is going to produce a recommendation that's different from the
EIS? Will a part of this $186k peer review include an analysis of the 3+
plan and a compare-and-contrast of the plusses and minuses amongst the current
EIS preferred solution, the 3+ plan, and whatever else the peer review
consultancy comes up with?</span></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I would appreciate it greatly if someone
could explain simply and clearly what $186k is buying that <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Missoula</st1:place></st1:City> doesn't already have.</span></font><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks.</span></font><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
missoulagov-bounces@cmslists.com [mailto:missoulagov-bounces@cmslists.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bob Jaffe<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 28, 2009
23:01<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> missoulagov@cmslists.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [MissoulaGov] committee
update 1-28-09</span></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Greetings,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><snip> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> We
finished the day with Committee of the Whole. We had the administration’s
legislative update. Ross Best came to the Monday meeting and he was here
today to complain about the public notice and involvement for the City’s
lobbying efforts. He heard that a SharePoint system had been developed
for us to track bills, get updates from the lobbyist and comment. He
lamented over how this is all private and should be open to the public.
He complained that all the public knows is the two words on the agenda “Legislative
Update.” There is no other additional info to know what is going on. Up
until a couple of days ago this is the way it was for us too. We would see the
two words on the agenda and the Mayor would come and give a verbal report.
Other than whatever notes we took we would have nothing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>The
new system is a little better but it is still pretty clunky. The way SharePoint
has been implemented it is kind of like a really low end blogging platform.
Each bill is like a discussion thread and then there are some comments. They
are working on a way to make it all publicly accessible. All that is really
needed is the list of bills the City is taking a position on. I haven’t
really seen a whole lot in the comments that are valuable. The stuff from the
lobbyist is generally comments like “I met with so and so today to
discuss this.” Not really any useful insight into the status or process.
I’m hoping there is actually something going on there for all the money
we paid.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><snip></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Bob Jaffe</span></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Missoula</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> City
Council, Ward 3</span></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><a href="mailto:bjaffe@ci.missoula.mt.us">bjaffe@ci.missoula.mt.us</a></span></font><font
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