[MissoulaGov] Dave's proposal is to make it a criminal offense to refuse the test punishable with a $300 fine

Ethel MacDonald ethelmacd at gmail.com
Fri Feb 19 18:23:27 MST 2010


Re Jed's: There are plenty of alternatives that can achieve the same goals
without attacking our civil liberties.
I do hope you'll enlighten all concerned about these alternatives.  For
sure, we need some.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Sherri Davidoff <
sherri at davidoffsecurity.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> As a responsible citizen I care a *lot* about personal privacy, especially
> with respect to my body. I would never, ever drive drunk, and it's not right
> for a policeman to be able to pull me over and force me to give samples of
> my bodily fluids without me even having the opportunity to speak with an
> advisor or have the test conducted in a known, safe place. As a responsible
> and innocent citizen, I don't think I should be subject to a criminal
> offense if I choose to protect my body, my privacy and my personal rights.
>
> I agree with Ruth that "if 6 months without a car doesn’t deter these
> people, than $300 won’t either." If somebody is drunk driving, they are
>
> already not thinking straight. There have got to be better ways to solve
> this problem than by penalizing everybody.
>
> In Montana we have a constitutional right to privacy. Let's find ways to
> fix this problem which don't threaten the rights of responsible, innocent
> civilians as well.
>
> http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/mca/Constition/II/10.htm
>
> Sherri
>
>
> Bob Jaffe wrote:
>
>> The $300 fine would be a municipal offence. This would be in addition to
>> the loss of the license which comes from the state law.
>>
>>
>>
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>> missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com] *On Behalf Of *Ethel MacDonald
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 19, 2010 2:37 PM
>> *To:* Ruth Link
>> *Cc:* missoulagov at cmslists.com; Carole
>> *Subject:* Re: [MissoulaGov] Dave's proposal is to make it a criminal
>> offense to refuse the test punishable with a $300 fine
>>
>>
>> The $300 might convince some to take the test = get a conviction = get
>> them some help and/or jail time to get them off the road and hopefully into
>> a program.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Ruth Link <rlink at missoularealestate.com<mailto:
>> rlink at missoularealestate.com>> wrote:
>>
>> So will the $300?
>>
>>
>>
>> Ruth A. Link
>>
>> Public Affairs Director, MOR
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