[MissoulaGov] Goals for Council
Sally Brown
sallybrown6 at gmail.com
Sat Feb 13 10:50:17 MST 2010
Wow - THANKS! I'll let them know.
raustin at missouladowntownbid.org wrote:
> Thanks to Bob Jaffe the Downtown BID has started putting these bins out and collecting them. We should have 15 out by early spring. Rod
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> From: Sally Brown <sallybrown6 at gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:25:55
> To: Ethel MacDonald<ethelmacd at gmail.com>
> Cc: <bjaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us>; <missoulagov at cmslists.com>
> Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] Goals for Council
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> I'd like to bring the tone and intensity of the past conversations down
> a bit, and move it to another topic.
>
> I commented to a Hellgate High School junior that the City Council was
> looking at future plans and priorities, and what would they suggest.
>
> They immediately responded that they would like to see more recycling
> bins next to trash containers all over town, especially downtown!
> Figuring out how to to put up bins and get them emptied would be a nice
> start at an environmentally friendly cooperative community gesture.
> Maybe even ask a few high schoolers for advice.
>
> SAlly Brown
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> Ethel MacDonald wrote:
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>> A tall fence and "remove me from the list" Eric? Doesn't sound like a
>> very positive contribution to me. Please reconsider.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Eric Taylor <ectbo at hotmail.com
>> <mailto:ectbo at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Jim and patrick thanks for the lessons and kind words. Forget the
>> trees, I think I will just focus my energies on building a taller
>> fence.
>>
>> BOB, WOULD YOU PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THIS LIST. THANKS.
>>
>> From: pnooney at earthlink.net <mailto:pnooney at earthlink.net>
>> To: ectbo at hotmail.com <mailto:ectbo at hotmail.com>;
>> jmcgrath at missoulahousing.org
>> <mailto:jmcgrath at missoulahousing.org>; bjaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us
>> <mailto:bjaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us>; missoulagov at cmslists.com
>> <mailto:missoulagov at cmslists.com>
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>> Subject: RE: [MissoulaGov] Goals for Council
>> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:21:26 -0700
>>
>>
>> The urban forest is an interesting concept, almost a looking-glass
>> wanderlust to a treasured past. I remember growing up in a small
>> town where outside my backdoor were a 1000 acres of unmanaged
>> woodlands—a wonderful time. Now maybe a quarter of it remains,
>> the rest developed into high-density housing.
>>
>>
>>
>> The suggestion of getting foresters from the government (yes, the
>> university is the government) or their professional advice is only
>> part of the pie. Forestry deals primarily with sustainable
>> habitats on a landscape scale. Urban forestry needs a blended
>> approach, more toward the older traditional view of ecology. This
>> approach merges forestry, horticulture and biological concepts.
>> It could also incorporate composting, biomass production and a
>> number of other “green” concepts. Whatever, it should be more
>> holistic in action and long-term in thought.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would certain caution against the temptation to imagine funding
>> from universities and other government entities. Everyone is
>> broke, bankrupt or on the dole. If you need money, go to AIG or
>> the banks or China . There is certainly no more tax money to be
>> had from us overly stressed taxpayers. So, whatever is done has
>> to be within our existing means.
>>
>>
>>
>> Finally, I want to comment on your advocacy for “…a strong
>> coalition of folks to address our neglected urban forest.” On a
>> quick read, the statement infers that our urban forest has been
>> neglected by a nefarious force. But then I realize that “our” is
>> the possessive form of “we”. In that case, the statement infers
>> that we neglected our urban forest, which is truer. The solution
>> then lies with what each of us can learn and do to care for the
>> piece of urban forest within our little domain on each of our
>> blocks in each of our neighborhoods. That would be doing
>> something within our means without relying on Big Brother to save
>> us from damnation.
>>
>>
>>
>> Patrick
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com
>> <mailto:missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com> on behalf of Eric Taylor
>> Sent: Thu 2/11/2010 6:14 PM
>> To: bjaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us <mailto:bjaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us>;
>> missoulagov at cmslists.com <mailto:missoulagov at cmslists.com>
>> Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] Goals for Council
>>
>> Hay there,
>> I would like to see the council take a stab at addressing our
>> city's urban tree situation. The outlook for the street trees in
>> the older neighborhoods and parks is not good over the next 25-30 yrs.
>>
>> One would think that a town with a University Forestry School, a
>> Forest Service Regional Headquarters, a city Urban Forester, and
>> numerous sustainability organizations, it would be feasible to
>> bring together a strong coalition of folks to address our
>> neglected urban forest.
>>
>> Trees provide so many benefits to individuals, wildlife, the
>> community, and the environment.
>> A thriving urban forest would be an awesome gift to leave for our
>> great grand kids.
>> Thanks, Eric
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
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>> From: BJaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us <mailto:BJaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us>
>> To: missoulagov at cmslists.com <mailto:missoulagov at cmslists.com>
>> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:33:12 -0700
>> Subject: [MissoulaGov] Goals for Council
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We are scheduled to have a discussion tomorrow afternoon regarding
>> goals for the council.
>>
>> Here is the referral I made back in April of '07:
>>
>>
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>> Hold a structured discussion regarding the goals we have for what
>> we want to accomplish over the next
>>
>> year. Hopefully concluding with a list of tasks and some kind of
>> action plan for how those things will
>>
>> happen.
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>> Ed has reluctantly agreed to take up this item in COW on Wednesday.
>>
>>
>>
>> Marilyn posted this one:
>>
>> Among other things already mentioned, I want to see the city save
>> money and maintenance costs by increasingly using native plants
>> and non turf areas as much as possible. Labor and water costs make
>> annual flowers and expansive lawns expensive.
>>
>> Where turf lawns are needed, I would like them maintained using
>> integrated management methods (composting, aeration, proper
>> irrigation, prudent herbicide applications). We asked parks for a
>> turf management plan several years ago- let's re-visit this.
>> Proper management saves money.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are a few of mine:
>>
>> I would like to see us do something meaningful in the realm of
>> affordable housing. Both in the area of regulation and financing.
>> Slow progress is being made but I would like to see us step it up.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sidewalks: We have got to come up with a better way to do
>> sidewalks. The street maintenance districts could play a role in this.
>>
>> Urban Forest: We know the trees are dying. If we want to maintain
>> one of the most defining aspects of the character of Ward 3 we
>> will need to take much more aggressive action to maintain the
>> urban forest. Maintenance districts may also be a part of this.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm curious if folks have suggestions for what they would like to
>> see the City Council / City of Missoula accomplish in the short
>> and long term.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bob
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>> Bob Jaffe
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>> Missoula City Council, Ward Three
>>
>> 1225 South 2nd West
>>
>> Missoula, MT 59801
>>
>> (406) 880-2052
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