[MissoulaGov] Goals for Council

Sat Feb 13 09:25:55 MST 2010

I'd like to bring the tone and intensity of the past conversations down 
a bit, and move it to another topic.

I commented to a Hellgate High School junior that the City Council was 
looking at future plans and priorities, and what would they suggest. 

They immediately responded that they would like to see more recycling 
bins next to trash containers all over town, especially downtown!  
Figuring out how to to put up bins and get them emptied would be a nice 
start at an environmentally friendly cooperative community gesture.  
Maybe even ask a few high schoolers for advice. 

SAlly Brown

Ethel MacDonald wrote:
> A tall fence and "remove me from the list" Eric?  Doesn't sound like a 
> very positive contribution to me.  Please reconsider.
>
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Eric Taylor <ectbo at hotmail.com 
> <mailto:ectbo at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Jim and patrick thanks for the lessons and kind words. Forget the
>     trees, I think I will just focus my energies on building a taller
>     fence.
>
>     BOB, WOULD YOU PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THIS LIST. THANKS.
>
>     From: pnooney at earthlink.net <mailto:pnooney at earthlink.net>
>     To: ectbo at hotmail.com <mailto:ectbo at hotmail.com>;
>     jmcgrath at missoulahousing.org
>     <mailto:jmcgrath at missoulahousing.org>; bjaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us
>     <mailto:bjaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us>; missoulagov at cmslists.com
>     <mailto:missoulagov at cmslists.com>
>
>     Subject: RE: [MissoulaGov] Goals for Council
>     Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:21:26 -0700
>
>
>     The urban forest is an interesting concept, almost a looking-glass
>     wanderlust to a treasured past.  I remember growing up in a small
>     town where outside my backdoor were a 1000 acres of unmanaged
>     woodlands—a wonderful time.  Now maybe a quarter of it remains,
>     the rest developed into high-density housing.
>
>      
>
>     The suggestion of getting foresters from the government (yes, the
>     university is the government) or their professional advice is only
>     part of the pie.  Forestry deals primarily with sustainable
>     habitats on a landscape scale.  Urban forestry needs a blended
>     approach, more toward the older traditional view of ecology.  This
>     approach merges forestry, horticulture and biological concepts. 
>     It could also incorporate composting, biomass production and a
>     number of other “green” concepts.  Whatever, it should be more
>     holistic in action and long-term in thought.
>
>      
>
>     I would certain caution against the temptation to imagine funding
>     from universities and other government entities.  Everyone is
>     broke, bankrupt or on the dole.  If you need money, go to AIG or
>     the banks or China .  There is certainly no more tax money to be
>     had from us overly stressed taxpayers.  So, whatever is done has
>     to be within our existing means.
>
>      
>
>     Finally, I want to comment on your advocacy for “…a strong
>     coalition of folks to address our neglected urban forest.”  On a
>     quick read, the statement infers that our urban forest has been
>     neglected by a nefarious force.  But then I realize that “our” is
>     the possessive form of “we”.  In that case, the statement infers
>     that we neglected our urban forest, which is truer.  The solution
>     then lies with what each of us can learn and do to care for the
>     piece of urban forest within our little domain on each of our
>     blocks in each of our neighborhoods.  That would be doing
>     something within our means without relying on Big Brother to save
>     us from damnation.
>
>      
>
>     Patrick
>
>      
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com
>     <mailto:missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com> on behalf of Eric Taylor
>     Sent: Thu 2/11/2010 6:14 PM
>     To: bjaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us <mailto:bjaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us>;
>     missoulagov at cmslists.com <mailto:missoulagov at cmslists.com>
>     Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] Goals for Council
>
>     Hay there,
>     I would like to see the council take a stab at addressing our
>     city's urban tree situation. The outlook for the street trees in
>     the older neighborhoods and parks is not good over the next 25-30 yrs.
>
>     One would think that a town with a University Forestry School, a
>     Forest Service Regional Headquarters, a city Urban Forester, and
>     numerous sustainability organizations, it would be feasible to
>     bring together a strong coalition of folks to address our
>     neglected urban forest.
>
>     Trees provide so many benefits to individuals, wildlife, the
>     community, and the environment.
>     A thriving urban forest would be an awesome gift to leave for our
>     great grand kids.
>     Thanks, Eric
>
>
>
>
>
>     ________________________________
>
>     From: BJaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us <mailto:BJaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us>
>     To: missoulagov at cmslists.com <mailto:missoulagov at cmslists.com>
>     Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:33:12 -0700
>     Subject: [MissoulaGov] Goals for Council
>
>
>
>     Hi,
>
>     We are scheduled to have a discussion tomorrow afternoon regarding
>     goals for the council.
>
>     Here is the referral I made back in April of '07:
>
>
>
>     Hold a structured discussion regarding the goals we have for what
>     we want to accomplish over the next
>
>     year. Hopefully concluding with a list of tasks and some kind of
>     action plan for how those things will
>
>     happen.
>
>
>
>
>
>     Ed has reluctantly agreed to take up this item in COW on Wednesday.
>
>
>
>     Marilyn posted this one:
>
>     Among other things already mentioned, I want to see the city save
>     money and maintenance costs by increasingly using native plants
>     and non turf areas as much as possible. Labor and water costs make
>     annual flowers and expansive lawns expensive.
>
>     Where turf lawns are needed, I would like them maintained using
>     integrated management methods (composting, aeration, proper
>     irrigation, prudent herbicide applications). We asked parks for a
>     turf management plan several years ago- let's re-visit this.
>     Proper management saves money.
>
>
>
>     Here are a few of mine:
>
>     I would like to see us do something meaningful in the realm of
>     affordable housing. Both in the area of regulation and financing. 
>     Slow progress is being made but I would like to see us step it up.
>
>
>
>     Sidewalks: We have got to come up with a better way to do
>     sidewalks. The street maintenance districts could play a role in this.
>
>     Urban Forest: We know the trees are dying. If we want to maintain
>     one of the most defining aspects of the character of Ward 3 we
>     will need to take much more aggressive action to maintain the
>     urban forest. Maintenance districts may also be a part of this.
>
>
>
>     I'm curious if folks have suggestions for what they would like to
>     see the City Council / City of Missoula accomplish in the short
>     and long term.
>
>
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Bob
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     Bob Jaffe
>
>     Missoula City Council, Ward Three
>
>     1225 South 2nd West
>
>     Missoula, MT 59801
>
>     (406) 880-2052
>
>
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