[MissoulaGov] Committee Update 2-10-10

kjerrim at missoula.com kjerrim at missoula.com
Thu Feb 11 16:19:11 MST 2010


well Jim I think the pan handling and ped interference ordinances  
addressed that "controlling fear" thing right..... and if you want the  
unduplicated stats on how those ordinances are working good luck.....

Quoting Jim McGrath <jmcgrath at missoulahousing.org>:

> The performance measures. That might be a starting point. I always
> thought they were much better discussion points than the line-by-line
> list.
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> How are they doing on "controlling fear" by the way? J
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> From: Ed Childers [mailto:echilders at ci.missoula.mt.us]
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:26 AM
> To: Jim McGrath
> Cc: Bob Jaffe; missoulagov at cmslists.com
> Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] Committee Update 2-10-10
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> Jim, there are some numbers for you at the end of the police's file.
> You may wonder why the patrolled area has decreased.
> I may wonder as well.
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> I disagree that the goals and objectives are unnecessary to give a
> picture of what we do.
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> ---ed
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> Ed Childers
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> Jim McGrath wrote:
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> Come on Ed, you can do better than that!
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> That lengthy "job description" list for the cops is important for your
> budget review (I agree about your idea of council going through it line
> by line), but it is not necessary to give the citizens a picture of the
> services provided.
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> How many crimes were committed and how many arrested, ticketed,
> prevented or otherwise policed?
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> How much was spent chasing speeding cars and how much doing fancy CSI on
> murders?
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> How many street-miles patrolled?
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> From: missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com
> [mailto:missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com] On Behalf Of Ed Childers
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 9:54 AM
> To: Bob Jaffe
> Cc: missoulagov at cmslists.com
> Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] Committee Update 2-10-10
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> Bob Jaffe wrote:
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> Greetings,
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> [snip]
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> The last meeting of the day was COW for the goals discussion. Besides
> Ed's best efforts it went really well.
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> Defied all expectations. Well done City Council.
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> Renee was hoping we could get some kind of inventory of city services so
> we could prioritize them and identify possible duplications of service.
> I think this would be a good idea too. I think people will be impressed
> to see the list of services they receive for an average price of
> $60/month/household.
>
> I thought this was a great idea but now I'm not sure it would be helpful
> to pull that information out of the budget, since it's voluminous and
> readily available.
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> For instance, as an example, here's the goals and objectives of the
> Detective Division of the Police Dept., which is in the General Fund
> <http://www.ci.missoula.mt.us/index.aspx?NID=923> . (Police also has
> Administration and Uniform Patrol divisions.
> The Police Dept. budget runs about 11 million dollars a year.
>
> Detective Division
> The Detective Captain oversees criminal investigative personnel in
> General Investigations, Drug
> Enforcement and Evidence and ID Unit.
>
> *	      Screen and assign cases for follow-up investigation.
> *	      Pursue justice on behalf of victims of crimes against
> persons and crimes against property.
> *	      Refer cases to the City, County and U.S. Attorneys for
> prosecution.
> *	      Maintain an offender based investigative program including
> domestic violence, sexual offenders and violent offenders.
> *	      Focus resources on youth violence and the Youth Justice
> system.
> *	      Participate in community based partnerships to address
> problems, control criminals and help victims.
> *	      Disrupt the supply and demand of illicit drugs through
> enforcement and education of the community.
> *	      Work cooperatively with partner agencies in the
> investigation and enforcement of illegal narcotics laws.
> *	      Assist other divisions with developing responses to
> emerging crime trends.
> *	      Develop technology resources and cyber crimes
> investigations abilities.
> *	      Collect, maintain or dispose of evidence and property
> according to accepted protocols.
> *	      Process crime scenes to locate and collect evidentiary
> materials, as requested.
> *	      Process physical evidence, including: fingerprints, tool
> marks, fibers and trace evidence.
> *	      Maintain digital image evidence and prepare visual aids
> for court or department presentations.
> *	      Perform fingerprinting services and submit fingerprint
> cards to state and federal agencies, as required.
> *	      Perform handwriting analysis and comparisons.
> *	      Submit items of evidence to Montana State Crime Laboratory
> for detailed examination.
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> What we can do, and may eventually have to do, is go line by line
> through departments' Goals and Objectives (there's a short Program
> Description but I think it's not helpful for this discussion) and decide
> what has to be kept and what has to go. For what it's worth, I don't see
> anything in this list that should be done away with. Oh, and the part
> about maintaining evidence? Our facilities don't lend themselves to
> that. I'm trying to put it nicely.
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> [snip]
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> Thank you for your interest,
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> Bob Jaffe
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> Missoula City Council, Ward Three
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> 1225 South 2nd West
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> Missoula, MT 59801
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> (406) 880-2052
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