[MissoulaGov] Committee Update 9-30-09

[Sally Brown]

And now, besides the sleepers, beggers, dogs, bikes, musicians - we'll 
have to share the sidewalks with SMOKER's!  How about a law that says 
that everyone smoking has to stand 12 feet from any door way - then the 
smoker's and the sleepers would all be in the same place.  Perhaps the 
dogs could stay there too, tied up to the bike racks.    What about all 
the street vendors?  Maybe they are 'local color' and not sleeper 
material....

Sally Brown






Derek Goldman wrote:
> Well, I cut a much narrower profile while ON my bike, thus making it 
> easier to dodge all the homeless people on the sidewalk...
> Seriously, Rod, I appreciate BID's support for a better bike 
> environment downtown. Really, I do. Likewise, those of us who bike 
> around downtown love it; we are supporters and customers of downtown 
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> I guess I'm just frustrated because it seems whenever there is a 
> homeless person, tied-up dog, and now bicycle, or some other 
> inconvenience on the sidewalk, we now get threatened with: "people 
> will stop coming downtown" unless we enact X policy...(eg: your 
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> <http://missoulanews.bigskypress.com/missoula/bikes/Content?oid=1170855>). 
> And that just strikes me as a bit over the top.
> Thanks, Derek
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> From: raustin at missouladowntownbid.org
> To: derekmgold at hotmail.com; jwiener at ci.missoula.mt.us; 
> missoulagov at cmslists.com
> Subject: RE: [MissoulaGov] Committee Update 9-30-09
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 17:36:43 -0600
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> Thanks Derek. The Downtown BID is working to create a better bicycle 
> environment in the downtown and is very supportive of Missoula become 
> the premier cycle community in the nation. We have collaborated with 
> the cycling community to get lanes on Higgins as well as putting money 
> up for addition parking in the downtown that includes the new bike 
> corral on N Higgins. We are supportive of back-in angle parking for 
> its safety factor for cyclists as well as motorist. I would like you 
> to walk your cycle on the sidewalks however. Thanks again.
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> *From:* missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com 
> [mailto:missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com] *On Behalf Of *Derek Goldman
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 01, 2009 5:16 PM
> *To:* jwiener at ci.missoula.mt.us; missoulagov at cmslists.com
> *Subject:* Re: [MissoulaGov] Committee Update 9-30-09
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> The businesses have nothing to complain about: Bob's amendment is 
> probably not even really a compromise at all, as I suspect there are 
> few, if ANY, stretches of downtown sidewalk that span 24 feet or more 
> between doorways? So, its probably still, in effect, a total ban.
> Now that the homeless, vendors and street musicians are taken care of, 
> BID can get on with the business of banning bicyclists, dogs, and 
> other undesirables from the sidewalks...
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