[MissoulaGov] MissoulaGov Digest, Vol 45, Issue 6--Bulbouts

Wed Nov 18 12:13:01 MST 2009

Brent and Geoff,
This is centered on a Regional Federal Audit that disagreed with both MDT and FHWA approval of design. The key issue is that the auditor wanted any existing corner ramp that tied to the new bulbout to have the current truncated dome plates that are being used. This will replace even the recently installed red colored ramps on S. Higgins. bb

Bruce Bender
Chief Administrative Officer
Mayor's Office
City of Missoula
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:12:56 -0700
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Why then was one of the corners omitted on the Toole Ave/West Broadway
Signal?

Brent Campbell, P.E.
President / CEO
WGM Group, Inc.
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:22:58 -0700
From: Bob Jaffe <BJaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us>
Subject: [MissoulaGov] SR2S
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Just got some news on the safe routes to school grant.
The proposal for FY11 is being put together and will be submitted
mid-december. If folks have ideas for things they would like to see in
the program they can post them here or send them on to Phil Smith
psmith at ci.missoula.mt.us<mailto:psmith at ci.missoula.mt.us>.
One caveate is that the projects may get delayed a couple of years. We
just found out that we have some ADA compliance problems on the projects
from this and prior years. My understanding is that wherever we have
done a bulbout or modified the curblines we have to make all the corners
ADA compliant. Apparantly we have not done that in all cases and it
looks like the feds are going to make us. So that may consume the FY10
and FY11 SR2S money.

There is a SR2S workshop planned for Dec. 1 6:30-8:30 at Lewis and Clark
school.

Bob Jaffe
Missoula City Council Ward 3
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Missoula, MT 59801
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I am sure there is an explanation, because there can't be an excuse. The ADA
has been around for, what? A quarter of a century or more?  Even with all
the updates there is no excuse for public engineers designing any public
works that do not comply with ADA requirements, is there?  

Geoff Badenoch

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Why then was one of the corners omitted on the Toole Ave/West Broadway
Signal?

Brent Campbell, P.E.
President / CEO
WGM Group, Inc.
http://www.wgmgroup.com

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:49:13 -0700
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No there isn't.  I have had feedback that it is impossible for the sight
impaired.  Never too late to fix things. 

Brent Campbell, P.E.
President / CEO
WGM Group, Inc.
http://www.wgmgroup.com

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I am sure there is an explanation, because there can't be an excuse. The
ADA has been around for, what? A quarter of a century or more?  Even
with all the updates there is no excuse for public engineers designing
any public works that do not comply with ADA requirements, is there?  

Geoff Badenoch

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Why then was one of the corners omitted on the Toole Ave/West Broadway
Signal?

Brent Campbell, P.E.
President / CEO
WGM Group, Inc.
http://www.wgmgroup.com

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