[MissoulaGov] Committee Update 5/20/09
LaNette Diaz
lanettediaz at gmail.com
Fri May 22 12:36:03 MDT 2009
>From prior research, cities in Montana that use maintenance districts do so
based on sq. footage.
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On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Jim McGrath
<jmcgrath at missoulahousing.org>wrote:
> I’ll take a stab.
>
> Taxes are based the way they are because that is how state law –in all
> states—is written.
>
> Districts can be assessed using several formula’s – frontage, value, or by
> parcel –each property assessed the same.
>
> The governing body chooses.
>
> Each technique is ‘fair’ and each technique has winners and losers.
>
>
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> *From:* missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com [mailto:
> missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com] *On Behalf Of *Jed Taylor
> *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2009 10:25 AM
> *To:* missoulagov at cmslists.com
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> *Subject:* Re: [MissoulaGov] Committee Update 5/20/09
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> Why are property taxes based on assessed valuation and not square footage?
> Isn't the case that maintenance districts are assessed by square footage
> without regard to assessed valuation?
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> *From:* missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com [mailto:
> missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com] *On Behalf Of *Bob Jaffe
> *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2009 08:09
> *To:* Eric Taylor; missoulagov at cmslists.com
> *Subject:* Re: [MissoulaGov] Committee Update 5/20/09
>
> There probably will be some tendency to say that taxes are not going up if
> we drop the general fund mills even though we are replacing it with a
> maintenance district. It’s possible that the swap will in fact be a wash but
> also likely there will be an increase. Folks have been wanting greater
> investment in a number of areas that maintenance districts can help. I’m not
> sure if the added specificity as to where the money will be spent will be
> enough to make an increase palatable.
>
> At our last meeting Mr. Hendrickson said that we shouldn’t ask for more
> taxes until we cleaned our own house a little better. I believe he is
> suggesting that there is more money to be had through efficiencies and
> savings. I’m hoping he brings forward something specific enough for us all
> to discuss in a way that fits into the protocol of how the budget gets
> processed.
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> *From:* Eric Taylor [mailto:ectbo at hotmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thu 5/21/2009 4:52 PM
> *To:* Bob Jaffe; missoulagov at cmslists.com
> *Subject:* RE: [MissoulaGov] Committee Update 5/20/09
>
> <<according to my crystal ball there will be maintenance districts on our
> tax bills this November.>>
>
> <<Bottom line is that they are proposing to keep taxes static.>>
>
> If I understand this correctly, the tax bill we receive in the mail this
> November- the amount we will be required to pay in FY 2010 will go up, but
> it is not because of higher taxes. It is because of the soon to be referred
> and approved maintenance district(s).
>
> <<We are the only major city in Montana that has not structured its taxes
> this way.>>
>
> Your tax bill will go up, but we did not raise taxes. This sounds like
> administrative election year magic to me.
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> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:59:09 -0600
> From: BJaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us
> To: missoulagov at cmslists.com
> Subject: [MissoulaGov] Committee Update 5/20/09
>
> Greetings,
>
> We started the day late with PAZ at ten. Our first item was to look at a
> few modifications to the Mill Site project. There were a couple of minor
> plat amendments and a phasing plan. The new phasing plan calls for the bulk
> of the project to be built in 2012 with the northwest portion being built in
> 2015. We also learned that the stadium parking lot will be built this summer
> as well as the trail connection to California street. The MRA board is
> considering putting the whole park development out to bid for construction
> this summer. Bonding and Bidding environments may be good enough right now
> to support getting the whole thing done up front. We are going to get a more
> detailed update on all that in Conservation.
>
>
>
> One of the sticking points in the project has been the road under the
> tracks connecting to Cregg lane. Way back when, the bridge was built to go
> over a log pond. Not a road. So now that they want to put a big road with
> lots of traffic under it, MRL is saying no deal. They want the developer to
> build them a new bridge to the tune of a million bucks. We learned that
> negotiations had progressed to where the developer was on board with this
> idea and just needed to figure out how to pay for it. Otherwise the holdup
> is just deciding when it is the right time to pull the trigger. Once they
> start they will need to make millions of dollars of additional investment in
> infrastructure before they can sell the first lot. They need to be
> confident that the market is ready before they start the process rolling. It
> turns out that they are lucky DEQ stalled the project for an extra year
> because otherwise there is a good chance they would have poured all that
> money in right before the market cooled down and the whole thing could have
> gone bust.
>
>
>
> Next was setting the public hearing to consider RLD 4 zoning for the Gables
> subdivision in Orchard Homes. We approved this subdivision a couple of years
> ago. There was a successful zoning protest and a supermajority was not there
> to support the zoning. So it was annexed and subdivided with no zoning in
> place. Then the developer never built the thing and the plat is scheduled
> to expire next week. He has indicated that he would like to do mini-storage
> units on the site. Last week his attorney, Alan McCormick, sent us a letter
> indicating we had no right to try to regulate what he did with the property
> since it is not zoned. So we decided to go ahead and zone it.
>
> For now the proposal is for interim zoning of RLD 4 which is what the
> original proposal called for. Then we will send it through the formal
> process with planning board to establish permanent zoning.
>
> The developer’s representative, Nick Kaufman of WGM group, was there to
> explain that they were indeed looking at a mini-storage project for the
> site. They intend to work with the neighbors to develop a proposal and come
> in with a PUD request. Dave had some choice words as to his feelings on
> mini-storage facilities. I can’t find the quote but it was something to the
> effect of ‘vile scourge on the landscape.’ Regardless of the varying
> opinions on these places the committee members voted to set the public
> hearing to establish interim zoning.
>
>
>
> Our next item was an update from Mike Barton and Roger Millar on the work
> plan and work load at OPG. Urban initiatives has pretty much the same stuff
> going on next year except they budgeted a bunch of time to develop an
> Agriculture lands policy. Roger did a presentation on the OPG workload
> through the first three quarters of FY09. The gist is that things are slower
> than last year but this last quarter has picked up substantially. Overall
> fee revenue is down something like 7%. Not really that bad considering what
> is going on in other places around the country. The powerpoint will be
> attached to the PAZ minutes and is worth looking at if you are into that
> stuff.
>
>
>
> In A&F we took up the maintenance district discussion. We discussed this on
> the list a couple of weeks ago. The basic idea is that we have the authority
> to set up maintenance districts to tax people for certain stuff like
> maintaining the roads or the parks or the trees and a few other things.
> These districts can be for very small areas or for the whole city. The
> appeal of maintenance districts is that they are outside of our mill levy
> cap. The legislature, in its infinite wisdom, has prohibited us from raising
> our general fund mill levy by more than half the rate of inflation. This of
> course means that we eventually go broke. Maintenance districts give us the
> ability to cost shift a bunch of stuff outside of this limitation. We are
> the only major city in Montana that has not structured its taxes this way.
> There is definitely some controversy here but according to my crystal ball
> there will be maintenance districts on our tax bills this November.
>
>
>
> There were two good items in Public Works. We set the public hearing for an
> SID to finally do some traffic calming on Philips street. There will be a
> few of these things that make you curve right and then left when you go
> through the intersection. They seem to work and the fire trucks can get
> through them OK. There will also be a bunch of bulb outs near the school as
> part of the safe routes to school program.
>
> We also directed staff to come up with some proposals for reducing the
> speed limit on Reserve street near the CS Porter school. DOT did a traffic
> study and determined that we can set it as low as 30 MPH and they offered to
> pay for the various signing facilities. There are a number of options on how
> exactly we want to implement this so staff is going to work on it and bring
> back a package for us to take through the process. School representatives
> were there to encourage us to make the reductions full time instead of just
> during specific hours since they have events going on all day every day.
> They also offered special thanks to Jim Hausauer and Reggie Bardgett for
> pushing this effort forward.
>
>
>
> In Budget Committee of the Whole (BCOW) the Mayor presented the
> administrative budget for FY2010. Lots of other press on this so I’m not
> going to dwell on it too much. Bottom line is that they are proposing to
> keep taxes static. It all works because we had a reduction of $450,000 in
> our General Obligation bond payments and they are proposing to cut the
> contribution to the employee health plan by $500,000. Magic! We pick up
> $950,000 to keep the general fund solvent without raising taxes. The
> administration argues that the health fund is in plenty good shape without
> the money but it sounds like the police union may be feeling a bit more
> protective about the employer contribution. It is currently about $680 per
> month per employee. It would go down $100 per month with the
> administration’s proposal. More to come on this in the next few weeks.
> Budget details can be found here:
>
>
> ftp://www.ci.missoula.mt.us/documents/Council_Review_FY10_Operating_Budget/Operating%20Budget/
>
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> Thanks for your interest,
>
>
>
> Bob Jaffe
>
> Missoula City Council, Ward 3
>
> bjaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us
>
> 406-728-1052
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