[MissoulaGov] [Missoula Gov] Civil Discourse... and my neighborhood.

[hdgray at modwest.com]

Hello Everyone,

I don't know how I missed out on this one.  Mr. Reed lives on my block and
I am one of the Neighbors affected by him.

Lets see where do I start:
1. My children are afraid to use the city sidewalks in front of his home
because of his behavior.
2. Mike has screamed at my children's' baby sitter when she was riding her
bike home, which has put her on her guard when she passes his home.
3. I know of two different owners of the adjacent home that have moved out
of the neighborhood because of Mikes actions.
4. He has rusty nails protruding from boards wired to the top of his front
yard fence that only face his property because the neighbors push them
away from the sidewalks.
5. He sprays round-up in the boulevard to kill the grass and encourage
weeds instead.
6. He piled garbage in his front yard to specifically upset his closest
neighbor. You notice it is only on one side.
7. I have had to call the police on Mike once or twice since living on the
block because of his fits of anger and violence at night.  He screams
profanities at the top of his lungs and beat a car parked on the street
with enough force to wake my wife and I up with our windows closed 150 to
200 feet away.
8. Refuse is now finding it way into the street and boulevard in front of
Mikes home.  Gee I wonder where it came from?
9. The political signs attached to his house are now starting to blow
around the block as they deteriorate in the weather.
10. He is known to burn garbage and motor oil in a barrel in his backyard
and has been confronted by one neighbor affected by it.
11. His closest neighbor would have filed assault charges against him for
beating on his fence late at night outside her window and placing signs on
her side of his home if she was not a police officer, I am sure.  Since a
lot of his anger seams to be directed specifically at her.
12. He paints profanity on the front and side of his house for all of the
neighbors to enjoy. Trying to explain to my children why they should not
read this is a real joy and when they have read it because they see it
everyday is even more enjoyable.
13. He painted similar messages on his home when another neighbor became a
police officer years ago, so this is an on going problem.
14. I am flabbergasted that people are actually saying that his attacks on
the entire block are being hailed as free speech
15. My wife and I have been awakened at night to gun shots over the last
several years from some unknown location but in his general direction.

The atmosphere on the block is turning into "when" will Mr Reed physically
attach someone and not just verbally.  His outburst are building.  His
offensiveness is becoming greater by the week. The city council is
discussing banning cell phones and the neighbors on 11th are wonder who is
going to get attached first.  Civil discourse be gone.  I want Mr Reed
arrest or put into an institution.  I want City government including City
Council, the police department, city lawyers and every possible department
to help the neighbors on 11th.  Please help with the problems that exist
not ones that make Missourians feel good.

HELP US PLEASE
David V. Gray
1731 South 11th West.



>

> All,

>

>

>

> I hope my comment to Brent Campbell about "civil discourse" is not

> preceived as some type of association with improprieties on behalf of

> other organizations and their personnel.

>

>

>

> Years ago I'd seen the visual evidence and had heard from a neighbor about

> the 11th Street concerns, not just through the recent Missoulian article.

>

>

>

> My point was to illustrate that certain soured interactions ascend to the

> level of needing

>

> mediation and interpersonal guidance.  Others, (IMO) such as our common

> local civic discussions and disagreements in committee meetings etc., do

> not ascend to such a level of need.

>

>

>

> Serenity Now!

>

> John Wolverton

>

>

>

> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:40:30 -0600

> Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] Thoughts on Civil Discourse... and my

> neighbors.

> From: wjordanhess at gmail.com

> To: yodelingdog at hotmail.com

> CC: missoulagov at cmslists.com

>

>

> Hi John and all,

>

> I agree that the character on 11th street might need some interpersonal

> skills training, but I think that it was incredibly inappropriate for city

> staff to speculate about Mr. Reed publicly in the Missoulian.  Sure, he

> sounds like a complete nut, but for the chief of police and the city

> attorney to publicly suggest that Reed has a mental disorder seems to me

> like a violation of Reed's privacy and an attack on his character of a

> magnitude not appropriate for an audience of a couple tens of thousands of

> readers.

>

> It would be okay for Chief Muir to outline past police actions regarding

> the man in question, but he crosses the line with this: "Part of what's

> going on here might be mental health issues..."

>

> Similarly, it would have been perfectly appropriate for City Atty Nugent

> to mention the letter sent to Reed and past actions against him, but he

> too goes too far by saying: "This man really needs some help..."

>

> While these types of statements are probably well founded, it shouldn't be

> the place of high-level city staff to publicly denounce Reed's character,

> turning the local paper into a gossip mill.  Am I off-base, or was this

> over the line?

>

> A little off topic for this list, but certainly pertaining to the state of

> our city government.

>

> Best,

> Jordan Hess

>

>

>

>

>

> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:10 PM, JOHN WOLVERTON <yodelingdog at hotmail.com>

> wrote:

>

>

> Hey Brent,

>

> About:

> "...Pier Massimo Forni is a peacemaker, not between nations,

> rather on the fundamental level of individual personal relations. He's

> not a therapist, psychiatrist, or such. He's a master of the

> ameliorative skills that are as old as human society and, to him, more

> productive of social harmony than most people realize.

> We're talking about manners, courtesy, civility."

>

>

> Sounds like good stuff. Maybe you could convince Mr. Forni to have a visit

> with that guy on 11th street who is making my neighbors' lives so

> miserable.

>

> Regards,

> John Wolverton

>

>

>

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