[MissoulaGov] Civil Discourse... and my neighborhood.
JOHN WOLVERTON
yodelingdog at hotmail.com
Tue Mar 17 23:38:21 MDT 2009
All,
I hope my comment to Brent Campbell about "civil discourse" is not preceived as some type of association with improprieties on behalf of other organizations and their personnel.
Years ago I'd seen the visual evidence and had heard from a neighbor about the 11th Street concerns, not just through the recent Missoulian article.
My point was to illustrate that certain soured interactions ascend to the level of needing
mediation and interpersonal guidance. Others, (IMO) such as our common local civic discussions and disagreements in committee meetings etc., do not ascend to such a level of need.
Serenity Now!
John Wolverton
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:40:30 -0600
Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] Thoughts on Civil Discourse... and my neighbors.
From: wjordanhess at gmail.com
To: yodelingdog at hotmail.com
CC: missoulagov at cmslists.com
Hi John and all,
I agree that the character on 11th street might need some interpersonal skills training, but I think that it was incredibly inappropriate for city staff to speculate about Mr. Reed publicly in the Missoulian. Sure, he sounds like a complete nut, but for the chief of police and the city attorney to publicly suggest that Reed has a mental disorder seems to me like a violation of Reed's privacy and an attack on his character of a magnitude not appropriate for an audience of a couple tens of thousands of readers.
It would be okay for Chief Muir to outline past police actions regarding the man in question, but he crosses the line with this: "Part of what's going on here might be mental health issues..."
Similarly, it would have been perfectly appropriate for City Atty Nugent to mention the letter sent to Reed and past actions against him, but he too goes too far by saying: "This man really needs some help..."
While these types of statements are probably well founded, it shouldn't be the place of high-level city staff to publicly denounce Reed's character, turning the local paper into a gossip mill. Am I off-base, or was this over the line?
A little off topic for this list, but certainly pertaining to the state of our city government.
Best,
Jordan Hess
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:10 PM, JOHN WOLVERTON <yodelingdog at hotmail.com> wrote:
Hey Brent,
About:
"...Pier Massimo Forni is a peacemaker, not between nations,
rather on the fundamental level of individual personal relations. He's
not a therapist, psychiatrist, or such. He's a master of the
ameliorative skills that are as old as human society and, to him, more
productive of social harmony than most people realize.
We're talking about manners, courtesy, civility."
Sounds like good stuff. Maybe you could convince Mr. Forni to have a visit with that guy on 11th street who is making my neighbors' lives so miserable.
Regards,
John Wolverton
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