[MissoulaGov] Committee Update 3-11-09
Paradigm1 at aol.com
Paradigm1 at aol.com
Thu Mar 12 09:00:27 MDT 2009
Oh no !!! here we go again.... please don't support the cell phone rule. It
creates the appearance of a Council more interested in hen-pecking it's
citizen's with petty behavior rules (insert leash law) than dealing with more
complicated and important matters facing the community. Additionally... have you
looked at a map of the city limits...? try figuring that out while you are
driving, talking on a cell phone, ...and eating a slice of pizza.
Carl Posewitz,
Ward 3
In a message dated 3/11/2009 11:12:15 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
BJaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us writes:
Greetings,
This morning in Public Safety we discussed an ordinance to ban the use of
cell phones while driving. Apparently there are studies showing that talking on
the phone while driving is just as dangerous as driving drunk. Studies also
show that hands free phones don't really help. The problem is not so much the
physical ability to manage the wheel while holding the phone, it is the
distraction of having the conversation. I was also told that it is different
from having a conversation with someone in the car because the person on the
other end of the phone conversation is not responding to road conditions like a
passenger. The ordinance would also ban the use of cell phones while riding a
bike.
As a frequent user of my cell phone while driving I am hesitant to get
behind this one. But on the other hand I know I have made bonehead driving moves
that would not have happened if I were not distracted by the phone. So I
imagine I will come around.
I have also determined through firsthand experience that it is much harder
to talk on the phone while biking than driving. I have pretty much given up
that practice. We already have an ordinance that requires a cyclist to keep
both hands on the handle bars so that one is already covered.
There was some discussion about problems with having a law that only applied
inside the city limits. But only a few years ago it was legal to drive with
an open container of alcohol outside city limits. And fireworks are legal
outside city limits. And then there are dogs on leash. That only applies in the
city. So there are a lot of examples of the city having laws that differ
from the rest of the state. We set a public hearing on the matter.
In conservation we looked at a proposal from the Greenhouse Gas Team
promoting the use of local wood products. We had a presentation from Professor Peter
Kolb on the forest management practices in Germany. Once again the Europeans
make us look like Neanderthals. Germany is almost the exact size of Montana
but they have something like 80,000,000 people. They have about the same
amount of forest as we do but produce about 16 times the number of board feet of
wood products. And they do it all sustainably with an incredibly diversified
wood products industry. It was a fascinating presentation and we ran out of
time before we got to look at the actual resolution request. We will take it
up again in a few weeks.
In PAZ we discussed development agreements again. The development agreement
is a contract between the City and a developer that will be required for
annexation. We first pursued the idea for properties that were being annexed
that were not going to go through subdivision. Such as a large lot that will be
divided into single family detached condominiums. A development agreement
would be the only opportunity for the council to review and condition the
future development. A secondary interest in development agreements is to make the
conditions of subdivision part of the contract for annexation. This is
driven by the desire to make the terms under which we are willing to approve a
project more defensible in court. Since our experiences with Bob Brugh and John
Didel, I now see all developers as potential litigants. For that matter I
see the neighbors who protest the development as potential litigants as well as
anyone else who has a horse in the race.
A related matter we also took up was modifying our resolution regarding
contract sewer connections. We made a number of modifications including the
requirement for a development agreement for developments outside of city limits
that want access to the sewer. For now on they will be subject to pretty much
all the same conditions as developments inside the city including park
dedication and payment in lieu of impact fees. We set a public hearing on both items
for April 6th.
In A&F we approved some union contracts. Labor costs are the lion’s share of
our budget but we pretty much just rubber stamp these agreements. They are
the outcome of the negotiations between the administration and the union. It
would actually be a violation of labor law if we didn’t approve them.
The main item we discussed in Public Works was the request to make an
exception to our noise ordinance for some MDT resurfacing projects. This enables
them to do the work at night on high volume roads. The sticking point was the
proposal to redesign South and Reserve. They want to make it so there are
double left turn lanes off of both directions of South. There were a few
problems. One was the fact that a major intersection in the city of Missoula was
being redesigned and we were only hearing about it because they wanted an
exemption from the noise ordinance. Another problem was that there was no
provision for bicycle infrastructure. It was incomprehensible to me that such a
thing would even be considered. When City Engineer Kevin Slovarp was asked about
the bicycle lanes he said it never occurred to him. He is really good at
giving the wrong answer in situations like this.
Later I found out the right answer when I spoke with Phil Smith, our bike
and Ped coordinator, to find out why there was not some more advocacy here. Phil
’s answer was that we generally don’t put bike lanes in at intersections
with turning lanes. The cyclist is expected to just take the appropriate lane.
The problem with this intersection is that the road starts spreading out
into the various turning lanes about 585 feet away from the actual intersection.
So you are supposed to take the lane and ride with 35-40 mile an hour
traffic for 585 feet. Clearly there is an opportunity here for some improvement.
When the committee refused to grant the exception for the project on South,
John Hendrickson made a comment to the effect that this is why MDOT screws us
on funding. If only we would be more compliant and let them build their
highways through our community like they know best we would get more money. After
the meeting when he was having a good ol’ boy chuckle with the MDT guy about
us silly Missoula people I asked him what was so bad about Missoula having
high standards and wanting to have a say in the design of our transportation
system. He told me that in this case it was impossible to have anything less
than 12 foot lanes at the intersection so this was the only way it could be
built. I’m having trouble believing that but need to look into the 12 foot
lane rule some more.
In Committee of the Whole (COW) we heard from some FEMA people about a
workshop they were doing for Missoula. They were here gathering information for a
disaster preparedness training they will be doing for about 50 participants.
The training is in Maryland and the feds are picking up the tab for the
whole thing. We don’t have a lot of natural disaster hazards here so the
training will be about earthquakes. My understanding is that the recent gas
explosion in Bozeman was related to seismic activity so it isn’t that off base. In
general, the biggest fear here relates to something going wrong with a train
which could of course be caused by an earthquake.
Thanks for your interest,
Bob Jaffe
Missoula City Council, Ward 3
_bjaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us_ (mailto:bjaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us)
406-728-1052
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