[MissoulaGov] Civil Discours

[Nancy Wilson]

I hope this person is removed from this list serve as this is just not acceptable discourse. Nancy Wilson


> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:39:38 -0600

> From: BCampbell at wgmgroup.com

> To: missoulagov at cmslists.com

> Subject: [MissoulaGov] Civil Discours

> 

> Below is an email that was sent that I find to be offensive and

> unacceptable behavior.  Such personal attacks on the fine folks who

> choose to serve in the often thankless job on city council do not

> deserve to be treated in this manner.  This individual has been an

> outspoken critic of recent city activities including the zoning rewrite

> process.  Such unprofessional and uncivil behavior only weakens and

> discredits his voice and undermines his representation of those who

> respectfully disagree.

> 

> Lets keep it civil folks.

> 

> Brent A. Campbell, P.E.

> WGM Group

> 

> 

> From: Rocky Sehnert [mailto:turahcat at earthlink.net] 

> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 5:19 PM

> To: Bob Jaffe

> Subject: Go ahead--finish killing off downtown shopping- there is not

> much there that just regular folks want anyway.

> 

> Dear Bob,

> 

> When you choke off the arteries to some part of the body it will die

> from lack of flow of nutrients and oxygen.   Choking off yet another

> access route for motor vehicles to downtown will pretty much finish off

> the viability of that part of the city for meaningful commerce

> especially from persons such as myself who live a short distance out of

> town and use our vehicles, at our expense, to do business in Missoula.

> Your ideas are short sighted and childish in regard to Missoula's role

> as a regional trade center.  What is needed is more parking if you want

> to save downtown.  North Reserve shopping is clearly more attractive to

> most people in this area.   Downtown is full of over priced boutiques

> and bars that cater to minors and bums.  The panhandlers and vagrants

> are enough already to keep me and my wife from going downtown after

> hours.

> 

> Why don't you try getting a real 40 hours job in Missoula, give up your

> trust fund, and see how regular people live.  You might gain a whole new

> perspective on real life in Missoula instead of living in  your fantasy

> bubble of bike, buses, and bullshit.

> 

> Rocky Sehnert

> turahcat at earthlink.net

> EarthLink Revolves Around You.

> 

> 

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>    1. Zoning ReWrite Schedule (Bob Jaffe)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:31:32 -0600

> From: "Bob Jaffe" <BJaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us>

> Subject: [MissoulaGov] Zoning ReWrite Schedule

> To: <missoulagov at cmslists.com>

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> Hi,

> My intent was to have this sent out early this afternoon to the

> "interested persons" list that OPG maintains. I just noticed it sitting

> behind a few other windows waiting for me to approve the spell check.

>  

> Here is the preliminary schedule for the zoning rewrite in PAZ:

>  

> 1) Up to one hour of random technical questions for our consultant.

> 2) ADU

> 3) Small lot issues

> 4) Height and hillside

> 5) Bed and Breakfast

> 6) Administrative adjustments

> 7) Home occupations

> 8) Windmills

> 9) Public Works issues

> 10) Neighborhood Character Overlay

> 11) Temporary uses

> 12) Signs

> 13) Map for southside riverfront overlay 14)Staff recommended Revisions

> + Sara Busey and parts of Phil Condon comments

> 15) Other issues

>  

> My hope is we will get through Adu's and small lot issues on Wed. 

>  

> At the end of each meeting I will line out what we will do at the

> following meeting. Once we get some kind of stride I will make more

> specific predictions.

>  

> If people have other issues or specific recommendations regarding any of

> these issues please forward those to me.

>  

> Thanks,

> bob

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> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:53:45 -0600

> From: "Jed Taylor" <mcc at offthedial.com>

> Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] Zoning ReWrite Schedule

> To: <missoulagov at cmslists.com>

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> It was an MCAT-Palooza last nite!  Although the issue of whether Title

> 20 is a rewrite or rezoning was discussed, I, for one, am unclear as to

> what the practical procedural difference between the two is.

>  

> If this effort were to be handled as a rezoning, what would be required

> to happen that's not going to happen under the current process?  Is part

> of the desire to treat this as a rezoning the possibility of collecting

> enough signatures so as to require a super-majority of eight votes in

> favor?

>  

>  

> 

>   _____  

> 

> From: missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com

> [mailto:missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com] On Behalf Of Bob Jaffe

> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 17:32

> To: missoulagov at cmslists.com

> Subject: [MissoulaGov] Zoning ReWrite Schedule

> 

> 

> Hi,

> My intent was to have this sent out early this afternoon to the

> "interested persons" list that OPG maintains. I just noticed it sitting

> behind a few other windows waiting for me to approve the spell check.

>  

> Here is the preliminary schedule for the zoning rewrite in PAZ:

>  

> 1) Up to one hour of random technical questions for our consultant.

> 2) ADU

> 3) Small lot issues

> 4) Height and hillside

> 5) Bed and Breakfast

> 6) Administrative adjustments

> 7) Home occupations

> 8) Windmills

> 9) Public Works issues

> 10) Neighborhood Character Overlay

> 11) Temporary uses

> 12) Signs

> 13) Map for southside riverfront overlay 14)Staff recommended Revisions

> + Sara Busey and parts of Phil Condon comments

> 15) Other issues

>  

> My hope is we will get through Adu's and small lot issues on Wed. 

>  

> At the end of each meeting I will line out what we will do at the

> following meeting. Once we get some kind of stride I will make more

> specific predictions.

>  

> If people have other issues or specific recommendations regarding any of

> these issues please forward those to me.

>  

> Thanks,

> bob

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