[MissoulaGov] panhandling ordinance

[John Rettenmayer]

I probably should let Bob speak for himself, but it seemed to me I  
could clearly see his tongue nearly poking through his cheek.

John


On Jul 9, 2009, at 11:06 AM, Rod Austin wrote:


> Yikes! That's a bit harsh. Missoula is by far the most caring  

> community I

> know of. In fact, I have stated for many years that is one of the  

> reason I

> live here. We should be very careful about how we classify the  

> homeless.

> Many homeless people need and want help and Missoulians are more than

> willing to provide that help. A few however are incorrigible and  

> create many

> problems for businesses and homeowners throughout the community. These

> problems are a result of many deeper social issues and how we as a  

> society

> deal with them. The solicitation ordinance limits but does not  

> prohibit

> folks from that activity and as a community we do provide places for  

> the

> homeless that need help to go.

>

> Rod

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com

> [mailto:missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com] On Behalf Of Bob Jaffe

> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:37 AM

> To: Gary Bakke; Seth McClain; missoulagov at cmslists.com

> Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] panhandling ordinance

>

> Thanks Gary, that is correct. Seth, this would include the boulevard.

> But I think you would be OK since the intent of the ordinance is to  

> keep

> those with homes from having to see or achnowledge the homeless.

>

> Bob Jaffe

> Missoula City Council Ward 3

> 1225 South 2nd West

> Missoula, MT 59801

> (406) 880-2052

> ________________________________________

> From: Gary Bakke [Gary at missoulachamber.com]

> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:09 AM

> To: Bob Jaffe; Seth McClain; missoulagov at cmslists.com

> Subject: RE: [MissoulaGov] panhandling ordinance

>

> Bob, the way I read the proposed ordinance, Section 3, 9.34.40 A., on

> any street, sidewalk, or other public place with the city limits.   

> That

> expands the area of prohibition to maybe even parks.

>

> Gary Bakke

> Missoula Area Chamber of Commerce

> Business Advocate

> 406-543-6623 ext. 31

> gary at missoulachamber.com

> www.missoulachamber.com

>

> Thank you to our Visionary Members

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com

> [mailto:missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com] On Behalf Of Bob Jaffe

> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:58 AM

> To: Seth McClain; missoulagov at cmslists.com

> Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] panhandling ordinance

>

> It would only apply to the right of way, which generally goes to the

> outside edge of the sidewalk.

>

>

> Bob Jaffe

> Missoula City Council Ward 3

> 1225 South 2nd West

> Missoula, MT 59801

> (406) 880-2052

> ________________________________________

> From: missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com

> [missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com] On Behalf Of Seth McClain

> [smcclain at montana.com]

> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:16 AM

> To: missoulagov at cmslists.com

> Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] panhandling ordinance

>

> Would this also make it illegal to sleep or lay down on parts of your

> lawn?

>

> Seth McClain

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