[MissoulaGov] Parking Kiosks

Mon Dec 7 12:08:37 MST 2009

Reports from Portland indicate a 25 % increase in revenue from the
electronic kiosks. This should be confirmed by our parking consultants
and if true, this could be important bonding revenue for the new
structures identified in the downtown masterplan.

Brent Campbell, P.E.
President / CEO
WGM Group, Inc.
http://www.wgmgroup.com

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   1. Re: parking meters (Rod Austin)
   2. Re: parking meters (Jim McGrath)
   3. Re: parking meters (Rod Austin)
   4. Re: Committee Update 12-2-09 (parking meters) (Michael Loftis)
   5. Re: parking meters (Ed Childers)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:13:34 -0700
From: "Rod Austin" <raustin at missouladowntownbid.org>
Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] parking meters
To: "'Derek Goldman'" <derekmgold at hotmail.com>,
	<echilders at ci.missoula.mt.us>,	<srye at montana.com>
Cc: missoulagov at cmslists.com
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Who pays the power bill? Or would that come with your parking fee? Rod

From: missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com
[mailto:missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com] On Behalf Of Derek Goldman
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:22 PM
To: echilders at ci.missoula.mt.us; srye at montana.com
Cc: missoulagov at cmslists.com
Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] parking meters

i wish we had a "like" button...

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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:12:42 -0700
From: echilders at ci.missoula.mt.us
To: srye at montana.com
CC: missoulagov at cmslists.com
Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] parking meters

I predict: in as little as five years we will be looking back wishing
our parking meters doubled as plug-ins for our fleet of electric
vehicles.

Ed Childers

Stacy Rye wrote: 

Rod,

It's not the changing of habits that's the issue, it's that kiosks are

inconvenient, and they could be difficult for tourists and perhaps a

question of if it's not broke . . .

I think the council needs to hear about this if new parking
meters/kiosks

are proposed.

Stacy

There are many issues to think through on what actually gets put on the

street. There are other more modern ways than the multi space meters and

we

will be exploring all of them. I think the feeling is that with the new

streetscape it would be nice to clean it up even more. And frankly I
don't

think it would be that difficult to change habits. At my age I sometimes

take change hard but do try to stay open to it.

I do have to say that everyone's input is interesting (I am a little

surprised) and noted.

Rod

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:30:12 -0700
From: "Jim McGrath" <jmcgrath at missoulahousing.org>
Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] parking meters
To: "Rod Austin" <raustin at missouladowntownbid.org>,	"Derek Goldman"
	<derekmgold at hotmail.com>, <echilders at ci.missoula.mt.us>,
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Solar!

From: missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com
[mailto:missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com] On Behalf Of Rod Austin
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:14 AM
To: 'Derek Goldman'; echilders at ci.missoula.mt.us; srye at montana.com
Cc: missoulagov at cmslists.com
Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] parking meters

Who pays the power bill? Or would that come with your parking fee? Rod

From: missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com
[mailto:missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com] On Behalf Of Derek Goldman
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:22 PM
To: echilders at ci.missoula.mt.us; srye at montana.com
Cc: missoulagov at cmslists.com
Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] parking meters

i wish we had a "like" button...

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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:12:42 -0700
From: echilders at ci.missoula.mt.us
To: srye at montana.com
CC: missoulagov at cmslists.com
Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] parking meters

I predict: in as little as five years we will be looking back wishing
our parking meters doubled as plug-ins for our fleet of electric
vehicles.

Ed Childers

Stacy Rye wrote: 

Rod,

It's not the changing of habits that's the issue, it's that kiosks are

inconvenient, and they could be difficult for tourists and perhaps a

question of if it's not broke . . .

I think the council needs to hear about this if new parking
meters/kiosks

are proposed.

Stacy

	There are many issues to think through on what actually gets put
on the

	street. There are other more modern ways than the multi space
meters and

	we

	will be exploring all of them. I think the feeling is that with
the new

	streetscape it would be nice to clean it up even more. And
frankly I don't

	think it would be that difficult to change habits. At my age I
sometimes

	take change hard but do try to stay open to it.

	I do have to say that everyone's input is interesting (I am a
little

	surprised) and noted.

	Rod

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:41:05 -0700
From: "Rod Austin" <raustin at missouladowntownbid.org>
Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] parking meters
To: "'Jim McGrath'" <jmcgrath at missoulahousing.org>,	"'Derek
Goldman'"
	<derekmgold at hotmail.com>, <echilders at ci.missoula.mt.us>,
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I'm there!

From: Jim McGrath [mailto:jmcgrath at missoulahousing.org]
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:30 AM
To: Rod Austin; Derek Goldman; echilders at ci.missoula.mt.us;
srye at montana.com
Cc: missoulagov at cmslists.com
Subject: RE: [MissoulaGov] parking meters

Solar!

From: missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com
[mailto:missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com] On Behalf Of Rod Austin
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:14 AM
To: 'Derek Goldman'; echilders at ci.missoula.mt.us; srye at montana.com
Cc: missoulagov at cmslists.com
Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] parking meters

Who pays the power bill? Or would that come with your parking fee? Rod

From: missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com
[mailto:missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com] On Behalf Of Derek Goldman
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 2:22 PM
To: echilders at ci.missoula.mt.us; srye at montana.com
Cc: missoulagov at cmslists.com
Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] parking meters

i wish we had a "like" button...

  _____  

Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:12:42 -0700
From: echilders at ci.missoula.mt.us
To: srye at montana.com
CC: missoulagov at cmslists.com
Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] parking meters

I predict: in as little as five years we will be looking back wishing
our parking meters doubled as plug-ins for our fleet of electric
vehicles.

Ed Childers

Stacy Rye wrote: 

Rod,

It's not the changing of habits that's the issue, it's that kiosks are

inconvenient, and they could be difficult for tourists and perhaps a

question of if it's not broke . . .

I think the council needs to hear about this if new parking
meters/kiosks

are proposed.

Stacy

There are many issues to think through on what actually gets put on the

street. There are other more modern ways than the multi space meters and

we

will be exploring all of them. I think the feeling is that with the new

streetscape it would be nice to clean it up even more. And frankly I
don't

think it would be that difficult to change habits. At my age I sometimes

take change hard but do try to stay open to it.

I do have to say that everyone's input is interesting (I am a little

surprised) and noted.

Rod

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:05:40 -0700
From: Michael Loftis <mloftis at wgops.com>
Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] Committee Update 12-2-09 (parking meters)
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--On Friday, December 04, 2009 12:22 PM -0700 Rod Austin
<raustin at missouladowntownbid.org> wrote:

>
> We are currently looking a a different metering system on N Higgins.
> Electronic gang meters are on our radar and this may be a great place
to
> try them.

One of my concerns is that a *lot* of the LCD display based multi-space 
(and single space meters) may not function well during winter around
here. 
I personally would prefer to pay via credit card, or even cell txt or
call 
from the comfort of the vehicle, than change, or cash.  As someone 
mentioned further along in this thread waiting on someone else in this 
weather is painful at the least.  Also, as many have noted bill changers

can also have a hard time when the temperatures are this low.

I'm sure our folks at the parking commission are considering all of
this, 
after all, they ultimately have to service and maintain all of this kit!

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 11:12:15 -0700
From: Ed Childers <echilders at ci.missoula.mt.us>
Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] parking meters
To: Rod Austin <raustin at missouladowntownbid.org>
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