[MissoulaGov] Committee Update 12-2-09

[Jim Sayer]

Jeremy -- my earlier question was simply whether any other town has used this set-up. I have never heard about it -- and have also not seen using street furniture as a buffer.

--- On Fri, 12/4/09, Jeremy Keene <JKeene at wgmgroup.com> wrote:


From: Jeremy Keene <JKeene at wgmgroup.com>
Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] Committee Update 12-2-09
To: "John Fletcher" <fletcher at montana.com>, missoulagov at cmslists.com
Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 10:14 AM



The protected bikeway will be constructed with asphalt adjacent to the existing curb. The curb line, combined with use of different materials (asphalt bikeway vs. concrete sidewalk) should create a well-defined edge between the bikeway and the sidewalk. In addition, street trees, planters, and street furniture will also provide separation between bikes and the walking zone on the sidewalk.
 
For anyone who was unable to attend the Public Works Committee meeting, our slide presentation and project information sheet are available at www.wgmgroup.com 
 
Jeremy Keene, P.E., LEED AP
Principal Engineer
WGM Group, Inc.
http://www.wgmgroup.com

 



From: missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com [mailto:missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com] On Behalf Of John Fletcher
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:48 AM
To: missoulagov at cmslists.com
Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] Committee Update 12-2-09


At 10:40 PM 12/2/2009, you wrote:

...The bike lane will be at sidewalk level and will be paved with asphalt.
Won't this conflate pedestrian traffic (on the sidewalk) with bicycle traffic (on the adjacent bike lane), thereby increasing the already-hazardous incidence of bicycles being ridden on downtown sidewalks where there are no setbacks from building entrances?
The advantage of separating these two types of traffic by a curb is that a bicyclist at street level dismounts, lifts the bike over a curb, and walks the bike to a sidewalk parking rack (or--at a street-level bike rack such as outside Taco del Sol in the 400 block of N. Higgins--dismounts, parks the bike, then steps over the curb to join pedestrians on the sidewalk).  The curb acts as more than just a physical barrier, for it marks a psychological boundary between two patterns of motive behavior. 
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