[MissoulaGov] Committee Update 12-2-09

[Ethel MacDonald]

Interesting & pertinent question -- would seem to me it will be an added
responsibility for the business owners as they shovel the sidewalks and push
the snow to the street -- a nice thought -- clearing the bike lane instead
of pushing the snow into it :-)  -- unless they don't like bicyclists? :-(

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:56 AM, David V. Gray <hdgray at modwest.com> wrote:

>  Bob,
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> How will the bike lanes be maintained, cleaned & snow removal completed if
> the bike lanes are at sidewalk level instead of the street?  Has this been
> brought to the attention of the maintenance department for input?
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> Sincerely,
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> David V. Gray
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> *From:* missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com [mailto:
> missoulagov-bounces at cmslists.com] *On Behalf Of *Jim Sayer
> *Sent:* Friday, December 04, 2009 8:45 AM
> *To:* missoulagov at cmslists.com; John Fletcher
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> *Subject:* Re: [MissoulaGov] Committee Update 12-2-09
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> I was a little surprised to see this too -- I have never seen this anywhere
> else -- what's the inspiration?
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> --- On *Thu, 12/3/09, John Fletcher <fletcher at montana.com>* wrote:
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> From: John Fletcher <fletcher at montana.com>
> Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] Committee Update 12-2-09
> To: missoulagov at cmslists.com
> Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 8:47 AM
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> At 10:40 PM 12/2/2009, you wrote:
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> ...The bike lane will be *at sidewalk level* and will be paved with
> asphalt.
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> Won't this conflate pedestrian traffic (on the sidewalk) with bicycle
> traffic (on the adjacent bike lane), thereby increasing the
> already-hazardous incidence of bicycles being ridden on downtown sidewalks
> where there are no setbacks from building entrances?
> The advantage of separating these two types of traffic by a curb is that a
> bicyclist at street level dismounts, lifts the bike over a curb, and walks
> the bike to a sidewalk parking rack (or--at a street-level bike rack such as
> outside Taco del Sol in the 400 block of N. Higgins--dismounts, parks the
> bike, then steps over the curb to join pedestrians on the sidewalk).  The
> curb acts as more than just a physical barrier, for it marks a psychological
> boundary between two patterns of motive behavior.
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