[MissoulaGov] committee update 8/26/09

[Ethel MacDonald]

I have to admit enjoying a chuckle or two as I read the reports, but also
hope you don't invite too much negativity.  Am reminded of a favorite
Charlie Brown-wrapped-up-in-his-kite-in-a-tree poster, "Good humor makes all
things bearable."

On to other topics -- Wednesday's PW meeting discussion on leaf removal.  I
appreciated and chuckled at Ed's remarks about the difficulty of
enforcement (cars on the street during leaf removal days) -- that fines had
been tried, but people complainedn so CC, wanting to keep everybody happy,
dropped it.  I think it makes sense to do two things:  (1) as several
members suggested, put out the orange cones & signs the day before and day
of pickup and (2) tow away & fine cars on the street.  Maybe knocking on
doors & reminding could be done by people working off public service hours.
I do keep the leaf pickup days on my calendar and try to get my leaves out
on the street just before the scheduled pickup, but due to numerous factors,
one can't depend on an exact day.   Moreover, a visitor to the neighborhood,
ignorant of the pickup schedule, might park in front of my house.  So bright
orange signs at all intersections of the area should help.  When leaves stay
in the street too long they cause parking problems, and moreover, too
often either obstruct the bike lanes or cars are parked in the bike lanes
due to piles of leaves at the curbside.  Maybe the whole education effort
should shift slightly and emphasize leaf pickup is for boulevard leaves and
not for the general convenience of people like me who find it easier to rake
towards the street instead of bagging or putting on my compost pile.  It's a
nice service, but maybe more than we need.  Ethel

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Bob Jaffe <BJaffe at ci.missoula.mt.us> wrote:


> I appreciate both of your perspectives. My intent with the listserve is to

> share with folks what goes on at city council. The politics and personal

> interactions are part of it. I'm aware that in this medium it is easy to say

> things that can offend and be hurtful so I try pretty hard to edit out any

> gratuitous slams. But I also want to continue to share some of those

> interactions that I think are significant and influence the functioning of

> the council.

>

>

> Bob Jaffe

> Missoula City Council Ward 3

> 1225 South 2nd West

> Missoula, MT 59801

> (406) 880-2052

> ________________________________________

> From: Pete Talbot [petetalbot at montana.com]

> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:20 PM

> To: Paul Sopko

> Cc: Bob Jaffe; missoulagov at cmslists.com

> Subject: Re: [MissoulaGov] committee update 8/26/09

>

> Bob,

>

> I appreciate your personal asides on city politics -- it helps flesh out

> the post and keeps it real.  Don't listen to Sopko.  He can start his

> own listserve he he doesn't like yours.  You're doing a great job.   I

> don't see the conservatives on council even approaching this post's

> transparency.

>

> Pete

>

> P.S. With more Democrats like Wilkins, there's no need for Republicans.

>

>

>

> Sopko wrote:

> > Bob,

> >

> > I'd prefer that you stick to reporting on the meat and potato issues

> > from the committees which 99% of the time you do very well.  Comments

> > such as those made at the beginning of today's post directed at the

> > council people you obviously don't like, do nothing but make you

> > appear petty and childish. I suppose if one of the functions of this

> > listserv is to keep your political base mobilized in an election year,

> > the comments make sense. If so, I'd prefer you make another mailing

> > list dedicated to bashing your opponents and leave me off of it. Paul S.

> >

> >

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